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MYSTICISM

dominic — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:58:12 GMT

COMMONALITY AMONGST THE WORLD'S MYSTICS:

If you study the life of past mystics you'll find they share several things in common:

First, they all speak of an induction – or of a need to learn/realize a new level of understanding. They all speak of a fundamental shift in consciousness (be it called awakening, realization, divination, or being born again).

Second they all tell of making a journey into and through a despair process of being “undone” as the precursor to this fundamental shift in consciousness -- be it through experiencing 40 days and nights in the wilderness, starving under the boddhi tree, facing the dark night of the soul, or the hero’s journey. There is a Journey of metamorphosis that all mystics have undergone in some way.

Third, it is an inner journey that must be taken up and navigated alone. This is a hallmark of the mystic’s realization: The reason the journey must be alone is because that which must be faced, seen, and surrendered in order that something new can emerge, is only possible through sustaining the fear and despair process of being alone and meeting the ultimate and fundamental fear of “non-being” and annihilation.

Fourth, they all seem to realize the frustration of being misunderstood by those who have not yet been through the awakening journey -- “those who have ears to hear, let him hear.” A great deal of the mystical writings are devoted almost exclusively to the fact that fundamental spiritual truth cannot be understood by the intellect nor correctly put into words. Forever, the great spiritual teachers have tried through the insufficiency of words to point toward that which can ever and only be experienced and known on a level that is before and beyond the mind. This is something unfathomable to those who have not yet had this breakthrough revelation - and particularly so in our contemporary culture that has become so overly reliant and blinded by the limiting paradigm of the scientific method that forever reduces our understanding of intelligence to that which is sensory, measurable and linear in nature. (...Life isn't (only or always) linear .. In fact it rarely is, except in man-made constructions and habituated uses of the mind.)

Please join us at this forum
http://groups.msn.com/TheInternationalMysticalOrderofKnightTemplars/_whatsnew.msnw

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activating an intelligent resurgence

carlos-ity — Tue, 01 May 2007 22:18:44 GMT

Perhaps you could use input from an Onkwehonwe and a Lakota? There have been deep words from "core-riors' about resurgence, about traditional/intuitive consciousness resurgence. ((This angle has been put together here by a white red/black/cosmic mutt, me))

The resurgence of the intuitive ancient within us all. To decolonize your mind-set, to inspire your imagination beyond the pale of same old again. To activate our dared imagination and begin going into the "heavenish" (great spirit) you want.

This is an honoring to a poet by the name of Antler....

and to all of the solemn dear deer people! And the Antelope who looked out through a wire fence in "colorado" and spoke to all who might listen....

Listen to words about resurgence by Okwehonwe core-rior:
http://web.uvic.ca/~gta/taiaiake/writing.htm

and, if you're a descendant of colonizers don't forget to hear from this heavily experienced Lakota wisdom keeper:
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2005/04/06/17316871.php

How to respond with our intelligence, with our cruciaL ability, to severe alienation all around? Perhaps even to INTENSE alienation. How to intervene?

Of course you realize the value.

Do we intervene in the ways we have been conditioned? In the ways we have been encouraged by war-mind cult-ure? Or do we experiment with and add on to what others have been creating?

There are many ways, up to our imaginations, to respond. Some of you may realize the value of "arting yourself" --in order to "get in touch with" designing our lives so that we activate the "heavenish" we'd like to see on mOm eArtH

If this interests you, then challenge your imagination. Go into your fears. Explore, take chances, experiment, make mistakes.

We are *all* descendants of tribes. We have been reduced into all of these identities and beliefs that others have ordered us to uncritically accept. We can wake up to our power to accept or not accept, or find grey areas in between. We can wake up to our power to envision and become, not allowing any political correct conception, or other colonized chain-of-command way of being and seeing to artificially hold us back.

You may wish to respect others, good. What of *radically respecting* by able-ing your heart, your great spirit, your connections to mOm eArtH, your wisdom, your deep seeing (i.e. reaching through the pain to the heart of alienated, flailing folks), your living high on life?!

some insights into what i have been up to
www.angelfire.com/folk/magixnartz/flouggindex.html

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questioning portions of "New Age" thought

carlos-ity — Fri, 20 Apr 2007 06:28:10 GMT

Heythere, i am wanting to possibly get others' thoughts on this! Anything you'd care to share is very welcome!

i've been listening to various dissent from a seeming label ("New Agers") given to we hippie-folk-types, and wanted to share some of my thoughts, and seek others' input.

Some background
i've been getting into discussions in other places about some of the challenges and problems with the label (?) of "New Age" given to so much of "what hippies are" and what we're about and such, and thought i'd offer a thinking-through here in the midst of one of our hives, so to speak. Heh heh.

So one thing i've been thinking about this "New Age" thing, which actually "gets my goat", is that there is so much attention and single-minded focus given to the idea of *detachment* (i.e. from "ego") without a seeming awareness about *when* such things were/are likely valuable.

To give an example of when such can be valuable, i thought of the war movie "The Thin Blue (?) Line" in the scene where the "americans" were rushing into an 'enemy' camp and one guy (an 'enemy'), there in the chaos of it all, was sitting in a Buddhist-type pose!

my line of thought
So here's my line of thought on this, and i'm wondering if others think this is in the right tune of things. So i'm thinking that this Buddha dude came along into the world with his visions in the context of his original people being over-run and under conquering attack by much-too-heavy invaders from elsewhere. And Buddha's vision-way *greatly aided* people in pain, and thus he was seen as a kind of saint. And his methods made sense for use in heavy situations of all kinds.

On the other hand, in the context in which we find ourselves, we "americans", we (settlers and indigneous peoples) are not over-run completely, and we can *still* make a difference, so we need not always orient ourselves to this way of passivity. You see what i'm saying?

But those who influence so much of our movements, have experience and reason not to feel this, and they seem to accept defeat (and assimilation), when they can't run, without *crucially challenging* in every POSSIBLE way. (Indeed, even their otherwise deep consciousness--in a certain area of 'enlightenment'--reveals that they, like anyone, have blindspots. And so they pursue ideas like *detachment* and their focus and their influence comes to somewhat dominate other ways of possibly seeing --and those deemed non-elders ---or "capable" of seeing deeply--- those with seemingly "not useful" gifts to add-to the banquet of joy in this world, are to basically go along with the program.

Because for one, "the elders of the hippie movement" (at least in my limited experience) have had planted in their heads similar pollutions or strategically-challenged alienations like everyone else; and are thus *products* like the rest of us, of colonization.

Am i digressing?

So, stuck in such a tradition, we end up not even *trying out* resurgence in ways that we're not "used to." (See the broader ramifications of this blindspot, anyone else?)

a curious thing
So i see this curious thing; and i see it amongst settlers who also are learning the ways of the indigenous directly. It's like there's no awareness of ourselves as *part and parcel* of this alternative system; we're, like, just following something like orders. We're so "in the flow" that we don't seem to *give ourselves permission* in even **this area** of our lives!

Now, at the risk of going perhaps off-topic "too far"(?), i just wanna say that this is how we settlers (and perhaps as well, growing numbers of indigenous people) are being hoodwinked by this entirely "normalized" state of affairs...because in this scenario, *all these people* are not allowed (in their minds, anyway) to complement or add-to what is being shared. And in the old days --i really feel this-- the old ways *ABSOLUTELY NEEDED* EVERYONE's heart-felt input! (But the re-writing of history has come along and polluted our ability to see this reality) Without such input from all (and without being able to see such value), they were rendered much weaker (why do you *think* that the invaders liked talking only to chiefs, whether an indigenous group had one or not!).

"It's not the right time, yet."
And then there's the subordination-oriented value/belief of just when "the right time" never is. And when i speaque up, in my own spiritual way, un-aligned with *any* noted/reputable interest group (and yes, of the *informal* kind!), i'm automatically deemed DISRESPECTFUL or "rattling beyond my parameters" and "preventing others' tranquility, prayers, quiet"!

And seeing the context i've brough here, isn't that way of seeing a curious thing?

Ancient traditional ways, not yet fully polluted by colonization, saw that all can *intuitively* see that "speaking up" (in myriad ways, including the "crazy") was where the strength of survival was; the strength of thriving! And quite likely, the strength of the excellence of having this human experience! Intelligence was in full gear in myriad ways. People prioritized thinking things through in ways whose reflections brought them the kind of great spirit they wanted in life. It wasn't perfect (whatever that is!), and it made for a way of life which many many refugees from europe sought to integrate with!

Well, once again my ancestors with the Long Wind have spoken through me, heh heh!

Anyone wanna get into this more? (or maybe i've confused ya, and maybe i can un-confuse ya?)

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Interesting article by NYM on decolonization==deep enough?

carlos-ity — Thu, 05 Apr 2007 11:11:27 GMT

While I read this (only touching on it for now), I found myself questioning only a few fine portions. And though I dissent strongly from some of the Native Youth Movement's (NYM) all-too-colonized-like positions (i.e. their alleged movement's ideologically-challenged fundamentalism regarding the edict to NEVER use the colonizers' court system and misleading characterization of people like John Trudell (re: http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2005/04/06/17316871.php --see comments section at bottom) --and some of their members' attacks against Bob Robideu (i.e. this article: http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2007/04/356943.shtml), I still think it would be important to discuss the following article (link), entitled "Colonization & Decolonization"
by Zig-Zag, Winter 2005
http://wolvesnotsheep.resist.ca/movement_history/colonization_and_decolonization.shtml

Likely, many others have written on this topic, as I recall John Mohawk in an old issue of Akwesasne Notes I happened upon. And all of them have "takes" that are also important in the development of our *resistance consciousness*. Perhaps you can give a link to such, and inspire a go-around of *crucial* thinking things through?

Perhaps this is not the place for such discussion, after all this is such a corporate-ized situation and all. But I thought I'd at least bring it to some folks attention...

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the words of the covenant

Marc Roller — Sun, 17 Sep 2006 18:01:31 GMT

Reality is a tissue rich in dimensions kept still and moved by rythms of contradictions.
The essential becomes the accessory the accessory turns into the essential.No can know for others what is essential or accessory.

The cloth of reality has lengh width thickness duration.

Its threads are continuous and discontinuous tense and loose straight and twisted.The rythms of reality open and close tie and untie every part of this universe to every other part.

The threads of reality potentialy relate everything to everything, realy relate very little to very little.

Together reality and potentiality build life.No one can know and teach this wholeness.

In human terms the tissue of reality is infinitly complex and simple infinitly ugly and beautifull.It is a tissue of contradictions the stronger the contradictions the stronger the tissue.

Human thought, speech, action are part of the tissues of reality.To think or to speak pulls on its threads.Contradictions pull the threads of reality in opposite directions.When the contradictions ceases the threads loose their tension, tear die.

The threads of reality are made of meaning.New meaning appear with every new contradiction.The cloth of reality is meaningfull.

Life is centered by a covenant of meaning which exists and applies for all forms of life from the smallest to the largest particle or wave.All humans have heard and continue to hear the words of this covenant.

Humans should not judge and condem the contradictions of reality.They can judge, they can condemn.No one can do both at the same time.

We believe in the existence of a moment of peace, a still point between all contradictions.This still point is the expression of good will in nature.When the two parts of a contradiction find peace, do not loose their identity, good will appears, war is averted.The threads are not torn.

The still point is the fundamental manifestation of good will, when no part of the contradiction gains ownership over others.

We believe that we are truly humans when we become the still point between our own contradictions.

No one should control or be controlled by others.Control violates the sacredness of contradictions.

Everything is meaningfull before and after it happened.The meaning differs before and after, but there is always a meaning.

The rightous and the criminal are free to choose the meaning of their action before and after it happened.Crimes dry up much of the oceans of potentiality.

Justice fills them.

Humans of good will know this and they do justice to each other.

The covenant obliges all parts of reality and potentiaity above and below, atoms and molecues, plants and animals, left and right, rivers and humans.

Meaning is potential everywhere.

We believe in the sacredness of freedom.Free humans are able to give meaning to every act, word, thought in their lives.No one shoud deprive others of this freedom, no noe should deprive the strong, the blind, the lame, the rich, the intelligent, the widow, the orphan, the child, the prisoner, the horse, the flower, the bird.

Avoid believing in fate.

Fate vioates the sacredness of contradictions.

There is much peace to humans of good will and much war to those who oppose it.

Good will happens when the covenant is accepted and shared.

When parts of the contradiction disagree in the name of good will, the prophet is called to bring peace.
The prophet is called between man and woman, student and teacher, human and tree.

Speech, thought, music , color, form, dance are sacred.

No one should destroy speech, thought, music , color, form, dance among humans and among all inhabitants of reality.

All humans should encourage contradictions.

We believe in the sacredness of the past and the sacredness of the future.

The future must not be diminished in the name of the past, and the past in the name of the future.

For any comunity, all system of self-governement are sacred : anarchy, monarchy, democracy, theocracy, aristocracy.Their sacredness appears when the comunity knows when to apply each.

Humans can heal and destroy with their thoughts, words and gestures.

All parts of reality are free to think speak and act without fear.

The secret and the public of everyone and everything.

Only good will must prevail.

People of good will can abide by the Covenant.

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New year greetings.

flyingbear — Mon, 02 Jan 2006 14:54:03 GMT

HERES HOPING THAT YOUR NEW YEAR MORN MUST HAVE DAWNED WITH EVERLASTING JOY, NEVERENDING HAPPINESS, AND GLADNESS WITHOUT MEASURE. BUT THIS IS MY PRAYER FOR YOU DEAR FRIEND, THAT MAY 2006 CROWN YOUR HEAD WITH SUCCESS EACH DAY, PROSPERITY KISS EACH OF YOUR FOOTSTEPS AND GOOD HEALTH BE YOUR DAILY ATTIRE.
JOE LITTLE.

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